Showing posts with label eternal hell. Show all posts
Showing posts with label eternal hell. Show all posts

2011-05-06

Hell - Continued

I figured I'd do a follow up to the last post I did. So, if you need to catch up, please read this entry first.

I had made a few more posts on this particular man's wall, laying out all the facts of hell and making the point of how absurd the idea of eternal punishment for finite sin is. I wish I could post for you any of the replies but, instead the man had decided to delete all of my posts.

Now, why would someone who is so sure of themselves and what they believe, be so afraid of someone challenging their belief? He also decided to post for me a whole long diatribe about how I am going to hell and sent this to me in a PM.


May 4 at 6:26pm ReportJennifer, I've been looking over your profile and I have a question. Are you in a lesbian relationship? Is that why you're trying to find a way that hell doesn't exist? Enlighten me!


So, because I don't believe in an eternal hell and I believe in universal salvation, I am now a lesbian? Where do people get this idea from? I'm trying to "find a way" for hell not to exist? No, I know that it doesn't exist because the G-d in the Bible is one whose love never fails. Oh, and NO, I'm not a lesbian.



For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that 

not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of G-d


As we can clearly see in the Bible, our salvation has nothing to do with what we can do for ourselves. If that were the case, then there would have been no reason for Jesus. He died because there was no other way for us to be saved. Another problem arises when you believe that your works will save you because, G-d would have to give you glory as well. That would not happen because all glory is given to Him. 

If you could save yourself through good works, you could worship yourself but, we are commanded only to worship G-d. 

If you do not believe in G-d, does He cease to exist? Of course not! He is very much present and if you don't want to recognize that, it does not mean He does not exist.  

If you do not believe you can be saved by Jesus and His work on the cross, does the work of Jesus on the cross cease to exist? Of course not! 

So this is just another example of the problem you will run into if you hold onto this pagan hell doctrine. Early Christians told all about universal salvation BECAUSE it was Jesus that had paid the wages of sin, all sin, for ALL men. 

Romans 6:23For the WAGES OF SIN [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Yes, indeed. Jesus died. He didn't suffer for an eternity. Where in there does it say the wages of sin is to be roasted for an eternity? It doesn't. If you don't believe, that doesn't mean the gift does not exist.

What about people who have heard The Word though false teachers, like this man I met on Facebook and because they could not fathom a G-d torturing someone for an eternity because of finite sin,  they turned away from the Lord. Does that make them worthy of an eternity in a flame? Is that what you or anyone would call justice?


May 4 at 7:00pm Reportso you're just a heretic then? The scriptures have all been inspiried by God. Satan has deceived you and you are lost according to your own testimony.
 G-d inspired the word of eternal punishment?
May 4 at 9:57pm ReportJennifer I have a responsibility to teach the truth, you don't have it. So, I must make sure none of my friends find you and think because we are friends that you are believable. So, this is the end of the road for us. The narrow road [that you don't understand] hands in the balance, it is narrow for a reason as you will discover one day, most likely on judgement day - XXXX

 You know when someone is supposedly teaching the truth, they do not fear someone challenging them. They also do not erase posts or block people. They also do not go around judging a person's character by insinuating that they will burn in a fire.

Not only did he exalt himself as some superior teacher of The Word, he then proceeded to tell me I was going to hell. He truly believes that there are people that deserve to be burned for an eternity. What has happened to people that they would even allow their minds to go to a place that is so dark and cold? Do you see how Satan has attacked G-d's people? Do you see how he has been able to harden people's hearts, as well as form wedges not just between people and their Lord but, between brothers and sisters in Christ?

According to a 2004 Gallup Poll, 70% of Americans believe in hell. Belief in hell is highest among regular churchgoers: 92% of those who attend church weekly believe in hell, as do 74% of those who attend nearly weekly.

 So, how is this belief a part of the narrow road?

Let's read this amazing paragraph concerning the belief and simplicity of the early beliefs amongst Christians:

 When our Lord announced his religion this world was in a condition of unutterable corruption, wretchedness and gloom. Slavery, poverty, vice that the pen is unwilling to name, almost universally prevailed, and even religion partook of the general degradation.1 Decadence, depopulation, insecurity of property, person and life, according to Taine, were everywhere. Philosophy taught that it would be better for man never to have been created. In the first century Rome held supreme sway. 2 Nations had been destroyed by scores, and the civilized world had lost half of its population by the sword. In the first century forty out of seventy years were years of famine, accompanied by plague and pestilence. There were universal depression and deepest melancholy. When men were thus overcome with the gloom and horror of error and sin, into their night of darkness came the religion of Christ. Its announcements were all of hope and cheer. Its language was, "Come unto me, all ye who labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest." "Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, rejoice." "We rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory." Men were invited to accept the tidings of great joy. John, the herald of Jesus, was a recluse, mortifying body and spirit, but Jesus said, "John come neither eating nor drinking, but the Son of Man came eating and drinking." He forbade all anxiety and care among his followers, and exhorted all to be as trustful as are the lilies of the field and the fowls of the air. Says Matthew Arnold, "Christ professed to bring in happiness. All the words that belong to his mission, Gospel, kingdom of God, Savior, grace, peace, living water, bread of life, are overflowing of promise and joy." And his cheerful, joyful religion at once won its way by its messages of peace and tranquillity, and for a while its converts were everywhere characterized by their joyfulness and cheerfulness. Haweis writes: "The three first centuries of the Christian church are almost idyllic in their simplicity, sincerity and purity. There is less admixture of evil, less intrusion of the world, the flesh, and the devil, more simple-hearted goodness, earnestness and reality to be found in the space between Nero and Constantine that in any other three centuries from A.D. 100 to A.D. 1800." 3 De Pressense calls the early era of the church its "blessed childhood, all calmness and simplicity."Cave, in "Lives of the Fathers," states: "The noblest portion of church history the most considerable age of the church, the years from Eusebius to Basil the Great."

Well of course this makes sense. For hundreds of years the belief of universal salvation was never challenged. When we can all believe in the goodness of being saved, it is then that we can delve further into The Word of the Lord and become closer to Him, but if we are all condemning each other to hell, and cutting people off, who's work is being done? Certainly not the Lord's.

The purity of G-d's love can only be reflected in our hearts when we know that ALL will be forgiven. When we understand this, we can forgive one another, we can become stronger, and we project G-d's mercy upon all others we encounter. Now the Bible and its history can finally make sense to us! We don't have to read His Word in fear. We can read and rejoice. When we project our happiness and goodness upon to others, that in turn is passed on to others. Evil and darkness is projected upon others when you believe in eternal torment.

When I read the words that this man wrote to me, I can feel his dark heart projecting onto me. I can feel his smugness in his condescending tone. Not only does he believe that it is considered justice for the Lord to roast His creations for an eternal amount of time, he seems almost delighted in this fact. Is this how Jesus wants us to feel? The same Jesus that forgave the people driving nails into His hands? Didn't Jesus Himself project onto others that they would be forgiven? Why would He do that if He knew that "only a small amount of people" would be saved? Wouldn't He have only been nice to a few people? Again, I ask, why spread The Word of the Bible, if only a few elect will be saved, as many modern churches like to tell people? Where is the "good news"? "Follow Jesus or perish in HELL for eternity!!!"

What's even more ironic is this man probably worships on Sunday instead of the commanded Sabbath. He also, most likely, believes in the pagan Trinity as well, and something tells me he eats pork. All of these things forbidden by G-d and according to his own belief, he will be damned to eternal torment. Thank goodness this is NOT the case! Amen!

Anyway, if you haven't already, please check out this link, as it will provide you with hours upon hours of information concerning early Christians and universal salvation! The sooner we all can put this horrible, Satanic doctrine to rest, the sooner we can spread The Word to all. We live in horrible times right now. What's right is considered wrong, what's wrong is right. Everything is just upside down! We need to get ourselves back to the basics -- we need standards, norms, logic, reasoning...all of which represent G-d and His glory.

G-d Bless.


2011-05-04

I Was Just Informed That I Will Be Burning in the Hottest Place in Hell

I try not to get into arguments over the Bible but, one doctrine that just drives me crazy is the hell doctrine. It amazes me the amount of people who call themselves Christians continue the pagan lie of telling people they will burn in hell for an eternity.

I have never really believed such nonsense. At one time, I did take on the belief that perhaps some people were just destroyed but, never did I believe anyone literally burns for an eternity. It wasn't until I was in my mid 20's that I discovered there are actual people who really believe that G-d will torment people in a fire for an eternity! Now, I went to catholic school; I grew up in the church but, they didn't talk about that doctrine too much. Thank G-d I didn't learn Christianity from many of these people. I would guarantee you, I would be an atheist today, if that were the case.

If G-d is this all knowing G-d, then what on earth is He creating people for, if He wants to eventually destroy some of them? Not only does He want to destroy them, according to many Christians, He has devised a plan to eternally torment them! Now, who would do such a thing except an evil force? If you believe that G-d would do this, then you are saying He is evil. If He's evil, why are you still worshiping him?

The hell doctrine is actually one of the first doctrines I studied when I started going to the Seventh Day Adventist Church. They take on the belief that there is a fire but, you just burn up. As the Bible states, it's PUNISHMENT, not punishING, and the result is eternal -- that you are cut off. This seemed very reasonable to me. At least, this was much more reasonable then eternal torment but, I have to say, something still wasn't quite sitting with me very well.

I had left the church for many reasons but, the main one had to do with their changing of facts. They say that Ellen White is a profit. Well, she may very well be one BUT, the church was saying that she told them that SDA was the last church and not to leave. This is NOT true. They also teach another pagan doctrine -- the Trinity, and Ellen White did NOT teach that. In fact, the early church did NOT teach the Trinity at all. Those are just a couple examples of why I left. I still think they have a lot of the message correct but, the conference has become just as corrupt as any of the other main stream churches.

So, after I discovered these things, I went back to the hell doctrine to study it further. There was still something lingering, still something that wasn't making any sense to me. When I first learned about it, the very first question I had to the man I was studying under was, "Well, why don't we all go to heaven? Why would G-d not save all of us by sending Jesus? Wasn't that the point?" I remember he pointed to some of the verses and did his best to explain and I reluctantly accepted it.

This time I was going to study what it was the EARLY Christians believed. What did those first followers of Christ have to say about hell? What was it that made them happy and excited to spread the word of the Bible, if they also had to include with the message that many would be destroyed?

To my surprise, they believed in universal salvation!

"What?" Well, that was my question but, after I started learning WHY this is what they believed, it all made sense. The whole Bible began to take upon a new meaning, a message of love, something to really be excited about, and a peace in my heart. What better way to bring people closer to the Lord than by giving them unconditional love, always and forever? If the eternal hell doctrine creates the most atheists, think of how universal salvation can do the exact opposite!

Literally everything made so much more sense, it became so much more clear. I wasn't bogged down by this idea that if I don't fix myself right away, I'm going to be destroyed. I was no longer afraid. I could see the character of G-d and His enduring mercy and WANT to be like Him. It has brought me much closer to the Lord, not further away.

Today, most all churches teach that only a few or elect will be able to be saved. So what is the point of spreading the message to everyone if most of them are just going to hell anyway? Where is the sense in that? If fact, wouldn't it be in a Christian's best interest NOT to let anyone know about the Lord, so they have a better chance of going to heaven, if only a small amount of people are able to go? Where is the joy is spreading the message of the Lord, if in the same breath you have to tell them, "Hey, it's either this or you burn in hell for an eternity!"?

Does this doctrine create better Christians? It doesn't take much to look at the world of Christianity to see that while there are many great people who are Christians, there doesn't seem to be an influx of great Christians who are all doing wonderful things. I would say that most of us, including myself, are Christians-in-training. I think most everyone is stumbling along, trying to do their best. Of course, we all fall short of the glory but, there is something that changes inside of you when you realize how much the Lord loves us. You no longer wish evil on people. You become a little more patient, and you try and love the way G-d loves. You will WANT to be more like Him.

Many people who believe in the hell doctrine do so because there is something wicked inside them. They WANT to see people burn. They WANT G-d to eternally punish. They can't wait for G-d to torture and really stick it to the evil people in the world! This kind of thought process does not lead one to loving others. It mostly leads to people looking down on others and being extremely judgmental of other people's characters. Even worse, they are wanting to see people's children tortured. Would you torture your children? At what point does justice become the evil it's trying to dispel?

It is NOT okay to senselessly torture someone. If I were to turn on the TV and see a report of a man who had kidnapped some women and put them in his basement and it was later discovered that he tortured them for several hours before killing them. I'd be horrified. Most people would be disgusted and very angry! Of course, those women were probably sinners so, does that make it better? NO! Of course not. However, if G-d were to do that for an eternity, it is considered "just" in some people's eyes. I'm not kidding. Some people really believe this.

One day to the Lord is a thousand years here on earth. Even if a man were to sin every day for 80 years, that's but a moment in G-d's life yet, it's considered justice to torment a man for an infinite amount of time for a very, tiny finite amount of sin?!?!?

You have to get the point by now! Only Satan would come up with such NONSENSE! Oh, but wait, I'm just getting started...

I LOVE telling people about the Lord saving all! In fact, it's a great message and I feel so wonderful about it but, let me tell you, people want nothing to do with it. In fact, they project their evil, cold hearts onto me. It's amazing! These are NOT atheists; these are people that claim to believe in G-d and in Jesus.

I stumbled upon a thread on Facebook that was arguing that babies do not go to hell when they die. Well, of course they don't go to hell! Dear heavens, that's a whole different can of worms. I proudly went in the thread and announced that babies are saved and loved by G-d and in fact, we are ALL saved! Amen! Praise the Lord Jesus! I get really excited about the Lord!!! <3 Initially, all was well but, the conversation turned to attack me. I actually had someone that was just observing the thread message me a very mean message:


May 2 at 6:58pm ReportGod does not desire all people to be saved according to 1 Timothy 2:4. If He did, then all people would be saved. God's purpose will stand (Isaiah 46:10). Do not read 1 Timothy 2:4 out of its context. The 'all men' in verse 4 is a type of man (kings and those in authority). God only desires the salvation of His elect, those who He chose before the foundation of the world to save. He does not will for the salvation of the non-elect. He desires for them to perish and forms them into vessels of wrath, prepared for destruction (Romans 9:22-23). We must allow ALL of Scripture speak in its context, not take verses out of context and twist them to fit the desires of our hearts. I read what you wrote on XXXXX's wall about 1 Timothy 2:4. I can't believe how many people read this verse out of its context.

G-d does NOT desire all people to be saved?!?! What?! Holy cow, this guy is serious. I couldn't believe anyone would say such a horrible thing. Again, why would you even follow a god like this?

As far as allowing ALL Scripture to speak in its context, I have to wonder if he's read the Bible?

 Jennifer Tuesday Prichard May 2 at 7:04pmApparently you missed out on the other 75 verses I also posted.
So, G-d created people just to destroy them...for what? Shits and giggles? He wants His children to suffer and perish for an eternity?
Do you believe in Jesus? Do you believe He just died in vein? Why, if He took upon ALL sins is He not burning in hell now? Please explain that one.
If anyone should be punished, it's those that perpetuate SATAN's LIE of hell and eternal punishment for finite sin but, alas, even those evil people will be saved! Praise Jesus! He saves ALL!
What's the point of every tongue confessing the Lord, if all He's going to do is destroy them? ..and as far as this "elect" you speak of...where? Who is better? Who here has not sinned? Sin is sin. Period. There's no elect. Sorry.

 May 2 at 7:10pm ReportLord rebuke you for all that you said. I endure all things for the sake of the ELECT (2 Timothy 2:10). Are you blind? Not everyone is a child of God.

May 2 at 7:11pm Report
Jesus died only for the elect. If He died for those who end up in Hell, then He would have died in vain since Jesus would have suffered for nothing.

Wow! So the Lord should rebuke me for praising His glory?  Do you see what I mean? This man WANTS people to burn in hell and that's exactly why he has no problem with a god that would do such a horrible, evil act. It is because, he is evil. He knows nothing of G-d's love. I wonder if he has children. I wonder if his child is a sinner. I wonder what he would think of G-d, if his child were to be burned for an eternity? Would he still want the Lord to torture people? Would he find that just? Would he still worship a god that would do that to his child?

Also, notice that he had no answer for why Jesus isn't burning in hell. In fact, not one person can give an answer as to how it is the Lord took upon ALL the sins and did not spend one moment in a fire. He rested on the Sabbath and rose on the first day of the week. How could He have ALL the sins upon Him and not be in hell?

Oh, and then he blocked me so that I could not respond to him. So much for love, eh?

The other man I was talking to had this to say to me:

Jennifer, based on your disbelief of scripture and the many places where Jesus himself taught hell and damnation, you can't be believing in the same God of scripture, your god is one you made up in your own mind. If hell isn't real then scripture has no truth in it. If hell isn't real there must be very little truth that can be relied on. There is a spirit of truth - and he will guide us into all truth, the only one who opposes God's truth is the evil one, Satan himself. He want's everyone to think like you do, that being, there is no way God would send anyone to hell for eternity, or bring such a harsh judgment such as agony and fire on anyone for eternity. Yet, that is exactly what scripture teaches and you deny! While you believe the god you have made up in your own mind is a good one, your theology is damning. All false teaching is damning and fills the wide road with false converts and God has reserved the hottest parts of hell for false teachers. The warnings have been sounded loud and clear to you and anyone else who believes such false theology.
As I mentioned before, thank the Lord I have done my own study and prayer over the hell doctrine. This man surely would have made me an atheist.

For goodness sakes, don't these people even understand science? Haven't they learned anything about energy? It doesn't go away; it changes form. We are an extension of a life force that comes directly from G-d. Of course we are going to change form.

Also on the scientific note, if we were to burn for an eternity, G-d would have to recreate people into a totally different type of material that would allow them to burn in a fire for an eternity. Whatever this material, it would have to be able to withstand fire. As it is now, we are made from the elements of the earth and those elements burn up right away. Again, eternal torment -- totally illogical.

The next question is, if we're all going to be saved, then what does it matter what I do? Well, it matters much more! It's not like heaven will not have a hierarchy. It will. When you have the Lord in your life, you can be assured that your life here will be protected, as well as reserving yourself a great spot in G-d's kingdom. When you have the Lord in your life, you also help the people around you. When you have the Lord in your life, you can learn to love and you will receive love as well. Just knowing that you are so loved encourages you to love back. That is the power of His love. His love never fails.

There is nothing I can really tell you that hasn't already been said before by others who also believe in universal salvation. I have a few links to share with those of you who are willing to study and pray, and learn about the pagan hell doctrine. Let's be rid of this doctrine forever! Until we understand this undying love and mercy G-d has for all of His creatures, how can we really understand Him and His character?

From this link, we can learn about what this first man that messaged me was thinking. His interpretation is just plain wrong.


DO YOU BELIEVE ALL IN THE BIBLE?
The early Christians of the first few centuries knew what the Greek word “ta panta” meant. It meant “all.” They took Scriptures listed below and believed what they said. To the early Christians, “all” meant “all.” This Greek word “ta panta” meant “all” in the Greek and it means “all” in the English. Unfortunately, we live in a time when man calls good, evil and evil, good. To the modern church, “all” does not mean “all.” As a matter of fact, “all” in many evangelical churches means “some” or “very few.” Below are listed a few of the many plain scriptures which no longer mean what they say. Should you decide to believe these plain Scriptures, you will find yourself among the “remnant.” The majority of the church has long since abandoned the simplicity and power of the “Original Good News.” The remnant will embrace perfect love and cast out fear and live in a new world. Now study these Scriptures in their proper context and see the full salvation of our wonderful Father. We realize a Scripture referring to all trees cannot be meant to imply all human beings. But if the Greek for all things includes both trees and human beings, we must then include human beings. Look at the following Scriptures through all of our Heavenly Father’s attributes, Omnipotence, Omniscience, Omnipresence, and Justice beautifully and harmoniously clothe His nature which is Love. Then rejoice!
1) 1Tim 2:4 God will have all to be saved. (KJV) Can His will be thwarted?
2) 1Tim 2:4 God desires all to come to the knowledge of truth Will His desire come to pass?
3) 1Tim 2:6 Salvation of all is testified in due time Are we judging God before due time?
4) Jn 12:47 Jesus came to save all Will He succeed?
5) Eph 1:11 God works all after the counsel of His will Can your will overcome His?
6) Jn 4:42 Jesus is Savior of the world Can He be Savior of all without saving all?
7) 1Jn 4:14 Jesus is Savior of the world Why don’t we believe it?
8) Jn 12:32 Jesus will draw all mankind unto Himself To roast or to love?
9) Col 1:16 By Him all were created Will He lose a part of His creation?
10) Rm 5:15-21 In Adam all condemned, in Christ all live The same all?
11) 1Cor 15:22 In Adam all die, in Christ all live Again, the same all?
12) Eph 1:10 All come into Him at the fulness of times Are you getting tired of seeing the word, all?
13) Phl 2:9-11 Every tongue shall confess Jesus is Lord Will the Holy Spirit be given to everyone?
14) 1 Cor 12:3 Cannot confess except by Holy Spirit See what I mean?
15) Rm 11:26 All Israel will be saved But most Jews don’t believe yet!
16) Acts 3:20,21 Restitution of all How plain can you get?
17) Luke 2:10 Jesus will be joy to all people Is there joy is “hell”?
18) Heb 8:11,12 All will know God How long, O Lord?
19) Eph 2:7 His grace shown in the ages to come Have we judged Him before the time?
20) Titus 2:11 Grace has appeared to all Experientially or prophetically?
21) Rm 8:19-21 Creation set at liberty How much of creation?
22) Col 1:20 All reconciled unto God There’s that word “all” again.
23) 1Cor 4:5 All will have praise of God What for?
24) Jms 5:11 End of the Lord is full of mercy Is “hell” mercy?
25) Rev 15:4 All nations worship when God’s judgments are seen Could His judgment be mercy?
26) Rm 11:32 All subject to unbelief, mercy on all All?
27) Rm 11:36 All out of, through, and into Him All into Him?
28) Eph 4:10 Jesus will fill all things Including “hell?”
29) Rev 5:13 All creation seen praising God Including Satan?
30) 1Cor 15:28 God will be all in all What does that mean?
31) Rev 21:4,5 No more tears, all things made new “All” made new?
32) Jn 5:25 All dead who hear will live How many will hear?
33) Jn 5:28 All in the grave will hear & come forth How will the “righteous” judge?
34) 1 Cor 3:15 All saved, so as by fire How can fire save you?
35) Mk 9:49 Everyone shall be salted with fire Including you?
36) Rm 11:15 Reconciliation of the world Will fire save the world instead of destroy it?
37) 2Cor 5:15 Jesus died for all Did He die in vain?
38) Jn 8:29 Jesus always does what pleases His Father What pleases the Father? (1Tim 2:4)
39) Heb 1:2 Jesus is Heir of all things Does “things” include people?
40) Jn 17:2 Jesus gives eternal life to all that His Father gave Him How many did the Father give Him?
41) Jn 3:35 The Father gave Him all things (Repeated for emphasis) Study the word “things” in the Greek.
42) 1 Tim 4:9-11 Jesus is Savior of all! Jesus is Savior of all! Can’t seem to get away from that word “all.”
43) Heb. 7:25 Jesus is able to save to the uttermost How far is “uttermost?”
44) 1Cor 15:26 Last enemy, death, will be destroyed Including “lake of fire” which is “second death?”
45) Is 46:10 God will do all His pleasure Does Old Testament agree with the New?
46) Gen 12:3 All families of the earth will be blessed Here comes that word “all” again.
47) Dan 4:35 God’s will done in heaven and earth What can defeat His will?
48) Ps 66:3,4 Enemies will submit to God Can any stay rebellious in “hell?”
49) Ps 90:3 God turns man to destruction, then says return How can one return from “destruction?”
50) Is 25:7 Will destroy veil spread over all nations All nations?
51) Deut 32:39 He kills and makes alive Kills to bring life?
52) Ps 33:15 God fashions all hearts “All” hearts, including men like “Hitler?”
53) Prv 16:9 Man devises, God directs his steps What about “free will?”
54) Prv 19:21 Man devises, but God’s counsel stands So much for “free will.”
55) La 3:31,32 God will not cast off forever Why does He cast off in the first place? (1 Cor 11)
56) Is 2:2 All nations shall flow to the Lord’s house “All” nations?
57) Ps 86:9 All nations will worship Him “All” nations!
58) Is 45:23 All descendants of Israel justified Including the wicked ones?
59) Ps 138:4 All kings will praise God Are you catching on?
60) Ps 65:2-4 All flesh will come to God That sounds wondrous.
61) Ps 72:18 God only does wondrous things I wish we would believe that.
62) Is 19:14,15 Egypt & Assyria will be restored Really?
63) Ezk 16:55 Sodom will be restored to former estate Sounds impossible.
64) Jer 32:17 Nothing is too difficult for Him Nothing? No, nothing!
65) Ps 22:27 All ends of the earth will turn to Him For what purpose?
66) Ps 22:27 All families will worship before Him Praise His name!
67) Ps 145:9 He is good to all Including your worst enemies.
68) Ps 145:9 His mercies are over all his works Let’s start believing that.
69) Ps 145:14 He raises all who fall Who hasn’t fallen in sin?
70) Ps 145:10 All His works will praise Him For “eternal torment?”
71) Is 25:6 Lord makes a feast for all people And you are invited.
72) Jer 32:35 Never entered His mind to eternally torture his children with fire Came from man’s mind.
73) Jn 6:44 No one can come to Him unless He draws them You can’t “chose” to follow Him.
74) Jn 12:32 I will draw all mankind unto Myself Amen!!!
75) Ps 135:6 God does what pleases Him. If it pleases Him to save all that He might be in all, are you upset?

AMEN! Is the message getting clearer for you? Are you understanding the character of the Lord now? Do you realize how important you truly are to the Lord? You're his baby!

What could any man possibly do to deserve punishment for a literal eternity??? Do you see how crazy that is?

 100 Scriptural Proofs That Jesus Christ Will Save All Mankind

Let's look at a few parts of this page. Particularly, I want to focus on those verses that discuss the character of G-d. We need to remember who He is. Does this sound like a G-d that would eternally torment anyone?

12. God is love and love worketh no ill. "God is love." 1 John 4:8. "Love worketh no ill." Rom. 


13:10. This is a very forcible argument. God's nature is the very essence of benevolence, and benevolence cannot be the origin of endless evil. If love worketh no ill, God can work no ill; and, therefore, God cannot be the author of endless evil.


13. God loves all mankind. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son." John 3:16: and, as Jesus died for all men, so God loves all men. This argument adds great force to the last.


14. God loves even his enemies. For he requires men to love their enemies, which he could not do if he hated his. (Matt. 5:44) And Jesus declared, "for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil." Luke 6:35. This is but an amplification of the preceding argument. If God loves his enemies, he certainly loves all men; for no one doubts that he loves his friends. And can God cause those to be endlessly miserable whom he loves?


Does G-d really NOT want salvation for all, as that guy told me and then blocked me?

The pleasure of God is in favor of the salvation of all men; and therefore, neither death, sin, nor pain, can be the ultimate object of God in reference to man. "As I live, saith the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked." Ezek. 33:11. Death and sin and pain may exist for a time; but if God has no pleasure in them of themselves, they are not the end at which he aims, but the means by which he accomplishes that end. The end in which God rests as his pleasure, design, or purpose, must be essentially benevolent, because he is essentially a benevolent God. Neither death, nor sin, nor pain can be his ultimate plan or pleasure; they are the means by which his holy and righteous designs are carried into effect.


It sure doesn't sound like it. Let's pray for this man to know the real character of the Lord, before he preaches to others this wicked message of Satan. 


God created all men expressly for his pleasure, and, therefore, not for ultimate death. "Thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." Rev. 4:11 Adam Clarke has a fine remark on this passage. He says, "He made all things for his pleasure; and through the same motive he preserves. Hence, it is most evident, that he hateth nothing that he has made; and could have made no intelligent creature with the design to make it eternally miserable. It is strange, that a contrary supposition has ever entered into the heart of man; and it is high time that the benevolent nature of the Supreme God, should be fully vindicated from aspersions of this kind."


Amen!!! Praise the Lord and His TRUE message! Hell does not even fit into G-d's plan for us. Please visit the link above for more of the Lord's loving message.

This is the ultimate link and not only can you find reason, logic, and the Bible's message, there are many more links at the bottom of the page that will help you in your studies. They go over specific verses of the Bible and explain them according to the original meanings. I know that there will be many people that will still insist that G-d is an evil being that eternally torments but, there is nothing I can do about those people. They simple project their hatred towards the world and they will have a very difficult life. When they finally are able to see the truth, it will be very delightful for me to see.


Philip. 2:9-11
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: [10] That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; [11] And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
 Amen! 

Well, I am done with this for now. I don't want to be a preacher. It's just some things I just need to get out! I just want to SCREAM out loud the evil that is this doctrine. The only thing it does is create a wedge between G-d and His children. There is nothing positive about it. Only Satan would torture someone for an eternity. 


Again, I know there will be arguments. Please, read the links I've posted. Pray over them. ASK questions! If you go to church, ask them. Don't allow them to make excuses for this doctrine. Learn for yourself that this was not the original message of the Lord. Early Christians were all about universal salvation. G-d Bless you.
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